Lucy Dacus and Janelle Mone on gender journeys: Freedom cannot be choked
Rolling Stone recently unveiled the lineup for its annual "Musicians on Musicians" series and two queer artists, Janelle Mone and Lucy Dacus were paired up together for a conversation about their artistry. The their cover story was the third one in the series following Paramore's Hayley Williams paired up with super producer Jack Antonoff and the pop legend Cyndi Lauper in conversation with pop newcomer Gracie Abrams. Mone and Dacus (wearing matching Thom Browne blazers) chatted about their influences and music making process over the years, but they also delve into their personal relationships with their gender identity.The conversation shifted from talking about the rise of AI and its place in the music industry to how the two of them grew up Baptist. Mone spoke about how she was raised with the idea of "covering up" to protect herself from men being attracted to her."My bodily autonomy is important, and my freedom cannot be choked so that you cannot have urges to want to rape me or molest me or violate my body," Mone said. "Do not ask me to choke my freedom to make you comfortable. I spent a lot of time unlearning that, and also pushing my boobies down, because it was something that I was made to feel more ashamed of, versus confident within and in celebratory of." See on Instagram Dacus says, "Now youre tits-out on the album cover." To which Mone adds, "I guess Im making up for lost time. I dont know. But Im also just honoring my body and saying, 'Im sorry.' Im sorry that I didnt know that it wasnt my fault."The Age of Pleasure singer came out as nonbinary back in 2022 on an episode of Red Table Talk, saying, "I'm nonbinary, so I just don't see myself as a woman, solely ... I feel like god is so much bigger than the 'he' or the 'she.' And if I am from God, I am everything." She said that she would continue to use she/her pronouns but in a Los Angeles Times interview that say year, Mone clarified that her "pronouns are free-ass motherfuckerand they/them, her/she."Dacus went on to talk about how she views gender and her thoughts on playing with masculinity and femininity. "If I was told 'You have to be one way forever,' I would be like, maybe lifes not for me," the "Night Shift" singer said. "Its very important every day to wake up and be like, 'Is it boy day or girl day?' Or on tour, especially if we do two nights in the same city. Ill have boy night, girl night."Dacus continued, "I dont think you need to choose. Even if the words dont follow. For some people its really important to find the words, and for me, its more important to find the inhabiting. That took a while. As youre saying, growing up Baptist, I didnt grow up with a ton of examples of people who I would describe as free. If I ever saw one out of the corner of my eye, theyd be vilified. Or not even just vilified, but made fun of. And youre like, 'I dont want to be a pariah. Ill keep in my lane.'"