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The suppression of 'queer joy' is no match for Matt Rogers and 'Las Culturistas'
Cohosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, the fourth edition of the Las Culturistas Culture Awards is gayer and more chaotic than ever making it the perfect year to bring this ceremony to television and broadcast the award show to a wider audience of viewers from Bravo and Peacock.The totally unserious Las Culturistas Culture Awards, a spinoff project from the Las Culturistas podcast by Rogers and Yang, is the ultimate queer satire of mainstream awards shows. From time to time, however, this creative endeavor that Rogers describes as "organized gay chaos" actually gets really big and causes audiences to start treating it very seriously A mood that Rogers politely and respectfully declines to engage with."When someone is listening to Las Cultch in the year of our Lord 2025 and being like, 'Matt talks too much,' I'm like, 'Guys, please, I have been talking too much since 2016. I'm not going to change,'" Rogers tells Out. "You're often listening to us first meeting people that we've always wanted to meet. Bowen and I are active conversationalists. Our brand is organized gay chaos."When asked about the 2025 Culture Awards being broadcast on television for the first time ever, Rogers says that the experience felt like "Bowen and I were given the keys to Hollywood for a night. And I don't even mean just gay Hollywood; I mean big Hollywood." However, he also notes that it was important for them to do a "good job of speaking to our audience, and throwing in Easter eggs for the podcast, and making sure that this felt like the Las Culturistas comedy special."Rogers still gets nervous to do a good job in massive projects like the Culture Awards have become, but he's also just "accepting it as part of my process now," adding: "Four to six weeks before I do anything big, I'm having a low-grade panic attack [that I'm] not going to prepare correctly but that's just the goal-oriented, results-driven little closeted boy inside of me that had a jock dad and did sports.""I guess I'll try to remind myself in the future like, 'Relax. You don't have to wear yourself out,'" he continues. "I feel like my mission statement is, 'Don't take yourself too seriously,' so I want to take my own advice next time. Ultimately, we are really not curing cancer here."That old adage about films, TV shows, music, and video games not curing cancer remains true. On the other hand, there are times when the glitz, the glam, and the gags of an awards show yes, even a satirical one can't escape the reality existing outside of it. Rogers undoubtedly understands that responsibility. "As I'm putting the show together, seeing all that in the news, and living in the world That's when it becomes a little bit of a responsibility."But instead of losing his mind over how a comedy podcast and a satirical awards show can find the solution to world peace, Rogers smartly focuses on the ways that this platform can actually help. "This is supposed to be a fun thing; so let's make it fun, bitch," he remembers telling himself. "I just hope that people feel good when they watch it."Even though Rogers and Yang have successfully cultivated a strong, resilient, and supportive community of queer people in their lives and careers as seen in multiple episodes of Las Culturistas featuring queer peers like Joel Kim Booster, Patti Harrison, Cole Escola, Sudi Green, Aaron Jackson, Josh Sharp, among others the LGBTQ+ community at large still deals with unnecessary in-fighting and an inexplicable desire to compete with each other at all costs.Rogers obviously understands those dynamics, which can feel even more intense in the case of famous gay men feeling threatened by other famous gay men. In any case, Rogers is determined to not get distracted. "I just always focus on the gay men that are supporting, you know what I mean?" He muses. "Because they are out there. I feel the love from them all the time.""And to the gay men that are not supporting gay men: I just hope they know that I'm rooting for them as well," Rogers adds. "If you're not rooting for me, and you're not rooting for Bowen, we get it. But we're rooting for you. All we want to do is make sure that we have a fun time, and to be in projects that can represent ourselves positively."As a fellow Drag Race superfan, I bring up the absolutely bonkers reaction to Ginger Minj winning RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 10, and how people direct so much intense rage at a target that won't actually solve any of their problems."I really agree with you," Rogers says. "In times of political hopelessness, and when you feel like you can't do anything to change that, something you can do is really pick on something that's frivolous, or really tear that pop girlie up 'cause of a new album. The discourse getting crazier in pop culture directly correlates to how politically abandoned, hopeless, and depressed people feel."As a result, Rogers not only hopes that the Culture Awards can help people rest for a little bit and find community through laughter, but he also thinks that queer projects like this one have a very important place in the resistance to conservative rhetoric."Of course there's reasons to be outraged, but I hope people remember that they want to exhaust us. They want to wear us down. They want us to feel like experiencing joy is a form of betrayal," he explains. "But that is not true. You can center joy, and fun, and find a way to remember why life is worth living."Rogers notes how dangerous it can be to "forget what we're fighting for and how good life can be when it's good." It's also easy to fall into the traps of "anyone that wants us to be less powerful," he explains, even though "one of the great things about the queer community is how smart, how diverse, and how funny we are."Between so many relentless attacks directed at members of the LGBTQ+ community, Rogers shares an interesting perspective. "The fact that we can see culture from the outside because we've been pushed to the outside of it means we can see things clearly. There's so much opportunity just in being who we are, and the fact that we do have this community."Considering the lineup of guests, honorees, and presenters at the Las Culturistas Culture Awards, Rogers says: "I hope that people look up on stage and we have Sasha Colby in the show alongside Jeff Goldblum. I just want to show the tent actually is big and there is a lot of fun to be had. And people want to participate in it."Is Rogers interested in the idea of keeping the Las Culturistas Culture Awards on television, and perhaps even scaling it up for a live broadcast?"Yeah! I think the question is, would they?" Rogers teases. " I don't say 'no' to anything anymore, or wonder if it could happen. I've been blown away so many times. If Bowen and I put our minds to it, we can do it. Right now I just want to make sure people can see the live-to-tape one, and then we'll talk about doing it live."Rogers muses, "I do think there is something special about being able to keep all the secrets, you know what I mean? Even all the red carpet looks are already online, and I'm like, 'Ah, I wish that the first time people saw Paige DeSorbo's outfit was on stage, or when she's in the crowd.'"But a lot of people don't keep up with social media in such a way, Rogers knows. "And this is on Bravo, so it's going to be a discovery for a lot of them. I'm excited about that."The 2025 Las Culturistas Culture Awards airs tonight at 9 p.m. on Bravo. The broadcast will be available for streaming on Peacock the very next day.
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